how is a statement like the one that cameç out today, secretary kerry saying it would be a terrible mistake or words to that affect for the russians to do something, the white house itself putting out a statement. how is that read by moscow do you think? >> the problem we have right now is we have all kinds of competing narratives about what is happening. the russians have also been accusing frankly the united stitz and the european union have directly intervening here as well. so sometimes the statements are not received in the way that we would hope they are in moskow. this might be seen as grandstanding in fact. rather than as a very clear statement that there is a red line here. we were as nadia suggested in the situation before in 2008, before the war with georgia in august of 2008, similar statements were made on all kinds of sides. and there was also a situation there where many citizens of russia, people without were living in the ses sessionist republic had assumed russian citizenship were deemed to be at risk by the russian government. and again there was a situation where